Cross-posted: signifiers

Do you think Christianity and nationalism go hand in hand?

For you, is “church” an extension of civic life, merely one of your clubs or organizations?

If your honest answer to either of those questions tends toward “yes,” you might not want to read this from my Kingdom blog.  On the other hand, if you consider yourself able to consider potentially challenging ideas without feeling offense, I hope you will read it.  If you do, please know that, while the ills I describe are pervasive, the examples I use are mere examples.  It could have been any church or Christian group.  Most have issues in this area.

Church signs and signifiers   (revised & expanded 2/15 – 2/19)

Were they serious?

3 thoughts on “Cross-posted: signifiers

  1. godschildrenorg 02/19/2018 / 3:45 pm

    In today’s political climate, is the U.S. flag in a church building a sign that the church is ultra conservative?
    There is much research online…I choose only these 2…there are others who say basically the same.

    Most Americans Say They’re Christian. According to Gallup poll — Percentage of Christians in U.S. Drifting Down, but Still High
    news.gallup.com/poll/187955/percentage-christians-drifting-down-high.aspx
    See — Dec 24, 2015 – PRINCETON, N.J. — On the eve of Christmas 2015, a review of over 174,000 interviews conducted in 2015 shows that three-quarters (75%) of American adults identify with a Christian religion, little changed from 2014, but down from 80% eight years ago.

    BUT…
    The State of the Church 2016 – Barna Group
    https://www.barna.com/research/state-church-2016/
    Sep 15, 2016 – …most Americans identify as Christian, but 31% who profess to be Christians only attend services once a month.

    Americanism = Christianity??? Christianity = Americanism??? Is that why too many “missionaries” have gone out into the world to establish American enclaves (where the American has the last say about what the Bible says???)

    I have seen too much of this in my mission years upon this earth.

    ~~ Anne B. currently in the U.S., seeing with clear eyes

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  2. godschildrenorg 02/19/2018 / 3:48 pm

    Oops, I left out the statement that the research I am pointing to is only concerning % professing to be Christians, and % attending any sort of “Christian” worship service…I think that speaks loudly.

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    • Brian Casey 02/21/2018 / 6:28 am

      The idea that Americanism = Christianity sounds ludicrous, but the evidences of that underlying notion keep rearing their ugly heads.

      Since I know you have personal, long-term experience in at least two countries, plus deep knowledge of other missions in other parts of the world, your opinion carries weight. (Plus, I already agree with it!)

      I’m glad you clarified that Gallup and Barna are dealing with surface-level identification. Not that a great number of those who profess Christianity are not Christian, but I think it’s an important realization that not all those who claim Christianity are claiming the same thing. How many would be identified as committed disciples, for instance? Or even “Bible-believing”? These are different kinds of “conservative,” and it is so important to clarify that political conservatives in a U.S. church hall with a flag are not necessarily of Christ and certainly can’t be assumed to be intentional followers of Jesus.

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